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Friend Safari

The Friend Safari (Japanese: フレンドサファリ Friend Safari ) is a facility in Kiloude City where Trainers can catch Pokémon that cannot normally be found in Kalos .

• 1.1.1 Normal-type Safari
• 1.1.2 Fire-type Safari
• 1.1.3 Fighting-type Safari
• 1.1.4 Water-type Safari
• 1.1.5 Flying-type Safari
• 1.1.6 Grass-type Safari
• 1.1.7 Poison-type Safari
• 1.1.8 Electric-type Safari
• 1.1.9 Ground-type Safari
• 1.1.10 Psychic-type Safari
• 1.1.11 Rock-type Safari
• 1.1.12 Ice-type Safari
• 1.1.13 Bug-type Safari
• 1.1.14 Dragon-type Safari
• 1.1.15 Ghost-type Safari
• 1.1.16 Dark-type Safari
• 1.1.17 Steel-type Safari
• 1.1.18 Fairy-type Safari
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Once the player has entered the Hall of Fame , they are able to access Kiloude City and thus the Friend Safari. At the Friend Safari, the player is able to access Safaris for any Friends that are successfully registered in the 3DS 's friend list (regardless of whether or not that person has played Pokémon X and Y ). Each Safari has designated Pokémon that can be encountered, all belonging to a designated type; these are determined by the Friend's friend code and will not change. As such, any players who successfully register a given friend code in their 3DS will all be able to access the exact same Friend Safari. There is no way for the player to access the Friend Safari for their own 3DS.

Friends who have been recognized in the PSS will usually be represented in the Friend Safari list by the avatar they were last seen with on the PSS, while Friends who have not been seen will be represented by a "?" icon. However, if the player has added more than 100 Friends (by deleting some at some point), the earliest-seen avatars may begin to be forgotten and revert to "?" icons until they are next seen on the PSS; this does not affect the rest of the Safari's status, however. Also, if a Friend is deleted from the 3DS's friend list and then readded later, their Safari may retain the status it had before it was deleted.

All Friend Safaris have three Pokémon that may be captured. Only Pokémon from the first two "slots" are available until the Friend to whom that Safari belongs enters the Hall of Fame and subsequently appears online in the PSS at the same time as the player (thereby also allowing the PSS to recognize the Friend if it had not already). Once all three "slots" are unlocked the Pokémon encountered in that Friend's Safari will thereafter have a chance of having their Hidden Ability .

Pokémon encountered in the Friend Safari are guaranteed to have at least two IVs of 31 and have a higher chance of being Shiny . When checking for Shininess, the game generates up to four extra personality values to attempt to find a Shiny value, resulting in a rate of 5/4096; this effect can stack with the Shiny Charm , which results in a rate of 7/4096. [1]

All Pokémon that appear in the Friend Safari are level 30 (causing some, such as Muk and Drapion , to be underleveled ). Pokémon can be found in the Friend Safari regardless of being Version-exclusive Pokémon or otherwise unobtainable in either version. All Friend Safari-exclusive Pokémon can be normally caught in either Omega Ruby, Alpha Sapphire , or both.

In the tables below, note that "rate" does not refer to encounter rate but rather the likelihood for a Pokémon to have been selected for that "slot" of a Friend Safari. All Pokémon that can appear in a given Friend's Safari have the same encounter rate.

Normal-type Safari

Fire-type safari, fighting-type safari, water-type safari, flying-type safari, grass-type safari, poison-type safari, electric-type safari, ground-type safari, psychic-type safari, rock-type safari, ice-type safari, bug-type safari.

If a Safari contains Vivillon , the form that appears will be the one corresponding to the current player's own location data, which won't necessarily match the location of the friend that provided the Safari.

Dragon-type Safari

Ghost-type safari, dark-type safari, steel-type safari, fairy-type safari.

• Initially, Vivillon 's icon would not replace the Poké Ball icon after it was encountered. This was fixed in the version 1.3 patch.
• Floette is the only Pokémon to have a greater than 50% chance of appearing in a Friend Safari.
• Cascoon is the only Pokémon to be found in a Friend Safari who does not match the designated type, as it is a pure Bug-type Pokémon found in a Poison-type Friend Safari. Its evolution , Dustox , however, is part Poison-type.

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The Friend Safari  is an area in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y where you can encounter Pokémon not native to the region, Pokémon exclusive to the other version, evolved (not fully) versions of the Kalos starters and Pokémon that are otherwise rare. To get it the player must have at least one friend registered in the Friend List of the 3DS. The Friend Safari Building is located in the top right corner of Kiloude City, which is accessible only post Elite Four and after the player speaks to Professor Sycamore at Lumiose City's Train Station.

• 1 New Features
• 2.1 Bug Type Safari
• 2.2 Dark Type Safari
• 2.3 Dragon Type Safari
• 2.4 Electric Type Safari
• 2.5 Fighting Type Safari
• 2.6 Fire Type Safari
• 2.7 Flying Type Safari
• 2.8 Ghost Type Safari
• 2.9 Grass Type Safari
• 2.10 Ground Type Safari
• 2.11 Ice Type Safari
• 2.12 Normal Type Safari
• 2.13 Poison Type Safari
• 2.14 Psychic Type Safari
• 2.15 Rock Type Safari
• 2.16 Steel Type Safari
• 2.17 Water Type Safari

New Features [ ]

Unlike the previous games' Safari Zones , the amount of available Friend Safaris rely on the amount of friend codes the player has registered to their 3DS.

There is no time limit or limit to the amount of steps you can take in the zone.

Each friend the player adds has different Pokémon themed to their safari (i.e. a person with Fire-type Safari will have only Fire Pokémon) and they enter their own safari. In order to discover what your own Friend Safari type is and what Pokémon lie within, you must utilize another player aid and have them enter your safari after sharing friend codes.

Every friend code registered in the 3DS will have a safari regardless of whether that friend owns X or Y or not. Those who don't play will only have two Pokémon in their corresponding Safari and Hidden Abilities will not be available. A friend safari will only appear in-game when both players have added the other's friend codes.

In order to unlock the 3rd Pokémon and a chance for each available Pokémon in that Friend Safari to have its Hidden Ability, two players who have shared Friend Codes must have beaten the Elite 4 and be online at the same time at least once in X or Y. After you have seen your friend's avatar in-game while going online via PSS, all 3 slots will be unlocked and Hidden Ability Pokémon can appear in that friend's safari whenever you enter.

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The Pokémon that players will find in each safari varies accordingly, but the type of the Pokémon found will always stick to the typing of the Safari. Note: 2nd evolutions of starter Pokémon can be found.

Some of the Pokémon reportedly found so far:

Bug Type Safari [ ]

Dark type safari [ ], dragon type safari [ ], electric type safari [ ], fighting type safari [ ], fire type safari [ ], flying type safari [ ], ghost type safari [ ], grass type safari [ ], ground type safari [ ], ice type safari [ ], normal type safari [ ], poison type safari [ ], psychic type safari [ ], rock type safari [ ], steel type safari [ ], water type safari [ ].

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Friend Safari is a location in Kiloude City in Pokémon X and Y where the player can encounter a set of Pokémon in a lot of grass based on their friends. Each lot has up to 3 different Pokémon of a certain type.

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• 2.9 Fighting
• 2.10 Poison
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Pokemon X and Y: How to Find Pokemon on a Friend Safari

You’ll discover plenty of things to do while exploring Kiloude City, one of the more popular destinations in Pokemon X and Y .  We already covered the exciting Battle Maison . Now it’s time to go on a Friend Safari, where you’ll have opportunities to capture Pokemon you would otherwise have to trade with other players or transfer from previous games to obtain. 

To go on a Friend Safari in Pokemon X and Y, you must select from registered players on your friend list. In fact, you stand to gain even more Pokemon if the chosen friend currently plays X or Y.  In addition, you’ll unlock a different Friend Safari for each registered friend code. Naturally, the more Safaris you access, the more Pokemon you’ll collect. 

To capture Pokemon during a Friend Safari, head outside and run through the tall grass. Pokemon you discover will correspond to the Safari type you chose. For instance, opting to go on an Ice Safari means finding Cloyster, Delibird and Sneasel, among others, while a Fire Safari may result in capturing Charmeleon, Larvesta or Magmar, to name a few. 

Friend Safari Tips  

• Pokemon captured during a Safari may possess hidden abilities.
• Normally you find two Pokemon on a Safari, but if the person registered entered the Hall of Fame, you’ll get three. 
• After going on a Safari, talk to the Judge in Kiloude City to reveal their potential. 

Here’s the complete list of Pokemon, by Safari type, that you can find. Pokemon with * after their names are ones you would only be able to get from a Pokemon Professor or via trades.

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The Friend Safari is a location in your Secret Base where Trainers can catch Pokémon that can not normally be found in their journeys.

• 1.1.1 Normal-type Safari
• 1.1.2 Fire-type Safari
• 1.1.3 Fighting-type Safari
• 1.1.4 Flying-type Safari
• 1.1.5 Water-type Safari
• 1.1.6 Grass-type Safari
• 1.1.7 Poison-type Safari
• 1.1.8 Electric-type Safari
• 1.1.9 Ground-type Safari
• 1.1.10 Psychic-type Safari
• 1.1.11 Rock-type Safari
• 1.1.12 Ice-type Safari
• 1.1.13 Bug-type Safari
• 1.1.14 Dragon-type Safari
• 1.1.15 Ghost-type Safari
• 1.1.16 Dark-type Safari
• 1.1.17 Steel-type Safari
• 1.1.18 Fairy-type Safari

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Once the player has entered Metchi Town , they are able to purchase a secret base and thus access the Friend Safari. A secret entrance to your secret base is located behind the bookcases in every Pokémon Center (2nd floor in Pokémalls). Players are able to go online and enter a friend's username to visit their base.

All Pokémon that appear in the Friend Safari are level 12-18. All Friend Safaris have three Pokémon that may be captured. Only Pokémon from the first "slot" will be available until the trainer has six Gym Badges, at which point two "slots" are available. The third and final "slot" is unlocked after receiving the eighth badge.

All three Pokémon are of the same type, determined randomly when the base is purchased. However, there are some cases such as Bidoof being spawned in a Water-type Safari, due to its evolved form being a Water-type Pokémon. This is the same for Poliwhirl , Corphish , Swablu , Seadra , Skrelp , Seel , Prinplup , Bunnelby , Pancham , Karrablast , Cacnea , Nosepass , and Pineco being spawned in a Safari where their evolved form has a new type which is the same type as the Safari.

It is possible for Woobat to spawn in both slots 1 and 2 for a Flying-type Safari.

There are some differences in the Pokémon encountered in the Friend Safari as opposed to the official games. Pokémon found here have a 5/4096 [or 1/819~] chance of being Shiny without a shiny charm, or a 7/4096 [1/585~] chance with a shiny charm. These Pokémon also are not guaranteed to have at least two IVs of 31 nor do they hold any items. Pokémon encountered here have a chance of 1/5 of having their Hidden Ability .

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Fire-type safari, fighting-type safari, flying-type safari, water-type safari, grass-type safari, poison-type safari, electric-type safari, ground-type safari, psychic-type safari, rock-type safari, ice-type safari, bug-type safari, dragon-type safari, ghost-type safari, dark-type safari, steel-type safari, fairy-type safari.

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Tips for Shiny Hunting: Friend Safari

As most of my followers know, I'm a pretty avid shiny hunter. But one downside to hunting is that it can take hours, days, or even weeks to get your sparkly Pokemon. So, I decided to give some tips and tricks to you people who want a shiny of your very own!

Let's begin with the hunting method I use the most, the Friend Safari in X and Y.

Tip #1 : Often times, the first encounter in the safari will be the shiny. This isn't a fact, but it's something I noticed when I hunt. For example, on my last shiny hunt, Clefairy was the first encounter, and I found a shiny Clefairy. So if you want a specific shiny in the Friend Safari, make sure it's the first thing you encounter when you begin.

Tip #2 : Have a long movie or TV show on. This helps you pass the time and keep track of how long your hunt was. Going back to my Clefairy, I watched a Patton Oswalt stand-up (1 hour and 5 min), a Soul Eater episode (around 30 min), and then about 5 minutes the next morning before finding my shiny Clefairy. Which means I was hunting for about 1 hour and 40 minutes, give or take. I prefer turning on movies that are over 2 hours long. So, next time you shiny hunt, turn on "Lawrence of Arabia", the Director's Cut!

Tip #3 : Come prepared for any shiny you might find. Nothing is worse than loosing a shiny. So come prepared with Pokemon who can prevent the shiny from running away. If it can Teleport, bring a Pokemon with Arena Trap or Shadow Tag. Can it use Explosion or Self-Destruct? Bring a Pokemon with the Damp ability. Even if your not looking for a Pokemon who can escape or faint itself, bring a counter just in case. For example, the safari I was hunting my Clefairy in also had Kirlia, who can Teleport. So, just in case I found a shiny Kirlia, I brought a Dugtrio with Arena Trap so it couldn't escape.

Tip #4 : Save before you stop. Just in case you want a take a break, save before you take a break. Because if something happens, like your game card pops out, or your battery dies, you can pick up where you left off without worrying about loosing your chain. I normally do this when I go to bed, then I pick up where I left off in the morning before school starts. Which is how I caught my shiny Clefairy, and my shiny Ivysaur, who I both caught before school.

Tip #5 : Don't leave the Friend Safari. While breaking a chain isn't proven to restart your chances to find a shiny in the Friend Safari, I prefer to stay in the Safari until the shiny is found. So if I want to play another game, I'll save without leaving the safari.

So those are my tips for finding shinies in the Friend Safari. I hope these help you to find your own shiny in the future. Let me know what shinies you find in the Friend Safari! Catch you later!

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Just a though and/or tip. If you need space for any shiny Pokémon especially from breeding and you have lvl 1 Pokémon in the party and need new eggs. just release the lvl 1 Pokémon in your party and replace them with new eggs.

I like to use the safaris to level grind as well as shiny hunt. I just knock out non-shinys.

I'm going for a Bergmite right now. Then I'll switch safaris.

One time, I got 2 shinys in a row on a safari. I saved immediately after.

I just caught 2 shiny Delibirds today in a Friend Safari. One was a couple of hours ago and I took a break after. The second was just now.

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Data on the friend safari shiny rate

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• Start date Mar 15, 2014

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Did anyone of you have a Shiny charm?Did you switch Safaris in between? Or were all encounters done in the same Safari? On one system? Or on multiple? That's what I am interested in. Does the rate vary between different safaris? And if yes, does it also vary between different systems? Meaning, if the shiny rate varies between safaris and five different people visit my Safari on 5 different systems, do they all have the same rate or does it also vary between systems? I would have done some research on that topic but there is no possible way for me to do it. What are your thougths? And great work btw, you're doing us all a great favor!  

I'm so glad someone replied to the thread! Lol, I was getting worried no one read it. 1. I have the shiny charm, and I'm not sure if dekuNukem did. My guess would be that he does not have the shiny charm since he recently contributed to the "Masuda Method without shiny charm" thread here on Smogon. I was using the same game on the same 3DS the whole time, and I'm not sure if dekuNukem had different games and 3DS's. In any case, I compared both my data set and his data set, and found there was no significant difference between them. Our average number of encounters per shiny was similar. 2. I switched safaris throughout the study. Sometimes a safari would take over 2500 encounters to find a shiny, and then the same safari would find another in 21 encounters. So, from my interpretation of the data, there is nothing to suggest that different safaris have different shiny rates. However, that still needs to be rigorously tested. I attached a PDF of the raw data if you'd like to look through it. The numbers are the number of encounters before a shiny was found. The changing colors represent when I switched to a different safari, and I was never in the same safari twice. The large pink group at the end is dekuNukem's data.  

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It's funny how I actually found 2 shinies within a time span of a half an hour lol. Nice job with all these statistics since they seem about right with my odds haha.  

It might be a good idea to indicate that you used the Shiny Charm either at the top of the OP or the thread title, since that is likely to drastically change the odds.  

Zowayix said: It might be a good idea to indicate that you used the Shiny Charm either at the top of the OP or the thread title, since that is likely to drastically change the odds. Click to expand...

I hope you make a million dollars

I've been looking around furiously online for some SOLID information regarding shiny rate in FS and if the Shiny Charm affects it. I just saw this thread today and was very pleased at how comprehensive this is. This is such good work. Keep it up, The Scientist ! btw this is more for the story than for actual research help but I went shiny hunting last night and found a shiny Spritzee in less than 100 encounters. And I got to watch a full episode of Supernatural! Life is good.  

Awesome collection of data. I've been wondering about where, exactly, the shiny charm affects encounter rates, and this is great to know for the safaris. I have also been curious if there are any variables that affect encounter rates in the safaris. I was frequenting one safari because it had three 'mon I wanted to shinyhunt (Shuppet, Pumpkaboo, Dusclops), and absolutely nothing over the course of months. I have no idea what the actual encounter number was, but this was someone I visited off and on since I reached Kiloude in October. Eventually I got so frustrated by my lack of shiny ghosts that I went hunting Route 16 and got my shiny Pumpkaboo there, with shiny charm, about a month ago. After that I went to a different ghost safari and encountered a shiny Dusclops in 10 encounters. It made me wonder if there is some sort of calculation done in certain safaris wrt your TSV and their TSV that may change the base encounter rate, or if I was just on the bad luck end of the encounter rate.  

Big thanks, NixHex and Fletchling . It's more than enough thanks to know that someone has found the data useful. Fletchling, so if what you saying is true, would you predict that different safaris have different shiny rates? I'm certainly open to hearing ideas about what could affect the shiny rate, but keep in mind that I regularly go 1000 or 2000+ encounters and then I might find a few shinies in less than 500 encounters. This good and bad luck happens in the same safari without anything having changed, as predicted can happen by a binomial distribution. By the way, I've been tipping $5000 to the guy in Kiloude between the last 25 shinies to test the shiny theory. I hope to post results on whether tipping affects the shiny rate in the next week or two.  

If there is a variable that calculates encounter rates based on some interaction of the player TSV and the owner TSV, then yes, I would predict that different safaris would have different rates. But it really was just a far-flung theory, rather than anything firmly tested: having no shiny encounter in a certain safari over many different visits could just be simple bad luck that falls well within what you found with your tested rates--like you said, 2000+ encounters without a shiny happens regularly for you when you're testing. I came up with it when people were talking about rate increase possibility theories, like if the safari owner was online. It was the midst of InstaCheck days so I was wondering if TSVs had any other function other than the obvious. It's frustrating that Nintendo/GameFreak aren't as open about these pieces of data and that there's no way to confirm it for certain, just test results that are believed accurate.  

Hello guys, I'm new to this forum and to be honest this post was the reason i registered ^^. So first i have to say that i'm very thankful for your testings, though i already have searched all over the web to find some really useful/profound data concerning the shiny rate in the friend safari. Because you mentioned to be open on ideas about effects on the shiny rate i thought i could share my ideas/experience for the friend safari as well. Experience: All in all I've catched 5 shiny in the safari, i don't know if it was luck or any higher rater, but 2 of them came very close after i've encountered and catched the first ones. In some other forums i also read that people had similar experiences (as well as Hootie seemed to have that kind of look too). So maybe I'm seeing ghosts but when i look into your data i see that except for 3 of your 20 days of testing all second encouters on a day were faster than the the first ones. For the shiny charm, i really hoped that it would have an affect (though already the pokeradar does not work) but maybe it would have made catching shinies too easy. :( Ideas: Some other ideas that came up to my mind which might affect the shiny rate: - on/off status -like Fletchling also mentioned the on/offline statuses of either yourself or your friend might affect the rate (maybe also the on/off status of the street pass function) ? - catching/ defeating/ escape - in other shiny methods (i.e. shiny chaining or shiny fishing) the way you handle all encounters before the shiny appears has an affect on the shiny rate, so maybe in the friend safari there is one too? - total amount of friends - maybe the chance for shinies is increased the more friends you have (i.e. someon with 100 friends has a higher chance for shinies than someone with 10 friends) ? - Encouter Power - though this does not seem very likely it just came to my mind that maybe encouter power might also have an effect on the shiny rate? Hmm i think thats all by now and again i'm really happy that someone finally got some solid data for the friend safari shinies! =D PS.: sorry for my bad english and for writing this much text (came out longer that i expected >.<)  

Hi Kyria, Thanks for the thoughts. I'm glad you found the data useful. Let me address some of your questions. 1) I agree that often shinies are caught soon after another. It's happened several times that I went 1000+ encounters without seeing a shiny, then after finally finding a shiny, I get another shiny within 100 encounters. However, I'd like you to keep this in mind. If the shiny rate in the friend safari truly is 1/512, then by the type of distribution the data should possess (binomial), you always have nearly a 20% chance of finding a shiny within the next 100 encounters. That's a pretty decent chance. So if two of your five shinies came very close to each other, that was a statistically like event. Currently, 18.4% of my shinies occurred in less than 100 encounters. 2) You noticed that many of the day's first shinies had more encounters than the second. The trials for all of those first of the day shinies started before midnight, and then ended when a shiny was found. So I recorded the day when the shiny was encountered, and not when the encounters were started. This would make it more likely for midnight to occur during a long run of encounters. For example, if I start the bot at 9pm and it takes 1000 encounters to find a shiny, it would end at 2am (it does 200 encounters per hour), making that 1000+ encounter shiny be the first shiny of the day. In addition, sometimes I wasn't really awake when I reset the bot, so in the morning when I entered the data, I usually guessed that midnight occurred during the longer runs. 3) I like your ideas about what could affect the shiny rate. I had thought of the online/offline presence of your friend, but I hadn't thought of the other two. The online/offline presence would be easy to test, and I'm working with someone to hopefully test this. I think your idea of catching/defeating/escaping has some potential. We know that catching the Pokemon resets the fishing chain, and we know that defeating Pokemon via Pokeradar increases the shiny rate until 40. I'm not sure how this would apply to the friend safari since there is no apparent chain other than running into Pokemon. What are your further thoughts on this? How do you envision this applying to friend safari? More coming soon on an update of the data and the results of my tipping trials, so stay tuned.  

I'm extremely excited to hear any scraps of data you could give to us on your tipping trials! Even if your data isn't "polished" enough to formally present right now, I'd be deeply grateful to hear your preliminary feelings and thoughts on if tipping does have an effect!  

OK, I won't keep you waiting. I transcribed my data to a Google Spreadsheet, and I'll update it now and then. I had to organize it a little oddly due to the way Google Spreadsheet makes the charts. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...htaGsxRlI1S1BDVHNySUJMMlE&usp=drive_web#gid=0 The data currently contains over 100,000 encounters and 207 shinies. 128 of those come from no tipping, 79 of them are with tipping. A major caveat to the data right now is the much smaller sample size for the tipped shinies. This is going to make the tipping data appear more erratic. However, as of right now, I don't see any reason to suspect that tipping affects the shiny rate. Without tipping, the average is ~1/501, and with tipping the average is ~1/542. Both of those have standard deviations over 500. If tipping does affect the shiny rate, it would be a minor effect, like going from 8/4094 to 1/455 or 1/410. At this point I can't be very confident given the small data set. Overall, the data continues to settle toward a shiny rate of 1/512. Look at the Chi-square test statistics on the far right of the document. Again, it looks like IF tipping affects the shiny rate, it would be a minor effect. I just can't rule out that possibility right now. Does anyone think Gamefreak would put such a minor effect into the game? I suppose it's possible.  

Thank you so much! This means quite a lot to me and my brother! So we will refrain from purposefully tipping (unless in Le Wow) from now on, as it seems to make no difference. Thank you once again, and I will continue to follow you, your posts, and this thread especially!  

I was looking around for some numbers for FS shiny rate and this was definitely the best I found. I also signed up so I could post my FS Shiny experience from this afternoon. I MM shinies and radar chain shinies alot, so I wanted to try FS RE's or the Horde route. I decided to give the FS a shot. I started by farming Kirlia (I was just looking for a female with HA to later MM a shiny) I did not think about keeping track of encounters at first since I thought it would be a quick find with Cute Charm. I would have to say after about 20-30 encounters, before I could find my Female HA, I ran into a shiny Kirlia. I decided to do some more shiny hunting for awhile after that quick luck and this is what I found. I also have the Shiny Charm, and I tipped for the hell of it before going into a new FS for the next 3. Shiny Dwebbie: After 66 RE's tipped ~ 8k Hariyama: After 6 RE's tipped ~ 11k Evee: After 517 REs tipped ~ 10k I don't think tipping really has any affects on shiny rate. I think it would be silly, but I also think that having a random money sink in a game where money doesn't play any role is silly too lol but i guess its not really that big of a "sink" compared to other useless money sinks in games. The four shinies where found in FS where all 3 pokemon where unlocked for me to find, IDK if that might play a role in it too. I know four shinies wont help your numbers out but I will try to remember to post my numbers whenever I do some more FS hunting.  

Hey all. First of all - Scientist, this is an excellent thread. I have been running around in safaris for much of the past 4 months and really appreciated your input. I do not have a clear number, but estimate at least 100 different shiny pokemon I have caught this way. Now, I wanted to share a few observations with you lot: 1. Based on my experience so far I find a shiny for every 3-4h of safari time (400-600 encounters). This does rougly correlate with what is presented above. 2. I have seen no difference from being in a safari with friends online vs. offline. As mentioned, if the difference is there it may be subtle enough not to be observed just by going in and out of battles 3. I have also had no significant difference between 3 pokemon safari and 2 pokemon safari. In fact, I had a number of suprisingly fast shiny finds (within 20-30 encounters) in safaris where I only knew two of the three pokemon. 4. I am uncertain about the different shiny rates in different safaris. I am aware of the high likelihood of recall bias, but on few occassions I would find multiple shiny in a single safari relatively easy, only to waste days in a different one. Again, if the rate was indeed 1/512 -- this should explain such a distribution...  

Hey, I'm not a shiny hunter in the FS yet, but I just wanted to say thank you for all the information that you gave us! Keep going!  

Thank you for doing this! I was looking for some solid proof of the increased shiny odds in FS, and after reading your analysis I was encouraged to go shiny hunting myself. I've found 2 shinies now, both taking approx 350-400 encounters. I should mention that my unlucky friend has now gone over 2000 encounters in FS without finding a shiny. If the odds are indeed 1/512, this has around a 2% chance of happening so it's far from impossible, but still. I really doubt there would be different odds for different safaris but for what it's worth he's been trying to find a shiny Heracross in a bug safari, specifically Heracross/Volbeat/Butterfree.  

I just got my shiny charm yesterday so I tried the friend safari and got a Gabite after 71 encounters, so without the shiny charm would be about 213 encounters so I was above average which is a nice change of pace.  

Hey The Scientist, I was wondering if you had any new data to share with us? Thank you very much, once again!  

Sorry, I've been busy lately. However, the bot is still going and I've updated the sheet. It's at ~167,000 encounters and 311 shinies. The average #encounters per shiny is currently at 536 with a standard deviation of 554. I only went to 100 shinies during the tipping trials. More would have been better, but to me it doesn't look like tipping had any effect. The data from both tipping and non-tipping trials had distributions that matched a 1/512 distribution far better than a 1/455 or 1/585 distribution. If anyone wants to do a power analysis or other types of statistics on the data (see Google Doc in signature), be my guest. In addition, I'm leaving the country later this week, so data collection will be halted for the next four or so months. It's been fun, and I learned a lot about probability. I'll still be able to check on the thread here and answer questions. Thanks for the conversation!  

Thank you very much!  

Dr. Eyepatch

I have always considered myself The Scientist, but the name suits you much more nicely. Firstly, thank you very much for doing this project. It must have been a huge undertaking to venture into unknown territory such as this, and finally having some data behind the likeliness of shiny encounters in the Friend Safari is highly appreciated. In terms of personal experience with the Friend Safari, I have captured three or four shinies while visiting, in a relatively fast amount of time. While I do believe all but one encounter occurred while the owner of each respective safari was online, even though it lead me to believe the shiny rate increases in such conditions, I do realize my experiences are much too sparse to contribute with any degree of usefulness. During one safari venture, I had spent 2-3 hours searching for a Supersize Pumpkaboo; I had decided to give up when I ended up finding a shiny Pumpkaboo before ever even seeing a Supersize one. I also wanted to mention that, while tipping does not seem to increase shiny encounter rates in the Friend Safari much at all (if at all), it should be important to note that such data only applies to Friend Safaris and should not be considered evidence for its potential increase (or lack thereof) in shiny encounter rates elsewhere. As I am sure it will be always, keep up the great work~! ^ ^  

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