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Volkswagen Cars w/ Adaptive Cruise Control (All 11 Models)

Adaptive cruise control has been available mostly in luxury vehicles but is now common in many mainstream cars, including Volkswagens.

The Volkswagen cars, SUVs, and EVs in this post have adaptive cruise control or conventional cruise control system.

Check the corresponding tables to see the relevant model years when the system became available.

Adaptive Cruise Control vs. Cruise Control

The more-basic cruise control in older Volkswagen cars helps the vehicle maintain a steady cruising speed.

Adaptive cruise control (ACC) enhances the conventional cruise control system by adjusting the car’s speed to match the vehicle ahead, slowing or accelerating to the set speed when appropriate.

Newer Volkswagens have the IQ Drive technology that automatically maintains a set distance from the vehicle ahead, with the ability to brake on its own to avoid a potential collision.

Rival mainstream car makers that produce popular models with adaptive cruise control (ACC) include:

• Toyota vehicles with ACC .
• Kia vehicles with ACC .
• Honda vehicles with ACC .
• Hyundai vehicles with ACC .
• Nissan vehicles with ACC .
• Ford vehicles with ACC .

Volkswagen Cars with Adaptive Cruise Control

#1 volkswagen golf.

Although it’s no longer in production after 2021, the Golf hatchback remains a compelling purchase as a used car, with its excellent ride quality and versatile body – even the more-powerful Golf R is a competent daily driver .

All Volkswagen Golf models from 2003 to 2021 had standard cruise control that enabled a steady highway cruising speed.

Only in 2002 when the system first became available was cruise control not available at all trim levels.

#2 Volkswagen Polo

Although the VW Polo isn’t available on American shores, it’s a popular little car sold globally in Europe and many other countries.

Except for the latest generation that debuted in 2022, Volkwagen Polos from 2009 to 2021 had cruise control in the pricier variants, and all pre-2009 models only had the system as an optional add-on.

#3 Volkswagen Beetle

The discontinued Volkswagen Beetle had cruise control as a standard provision from 2012 to 2019.

#4 Volkswagen Jetta

In a class with all-stars like Honda Civic , Toyota Corolla , Hyundai Elantra , and Kia Forte – all with adaptive cruise control – the VW Jetta seems somewhat mediocre.

Still, from 2019 onwards, Volkswagen Jettas have had adaptive cruise control (ACC) in their higher trims and the more-basic cruise control in the lower ones.

Cruise control is standard across all Volkswagen Jettas from 2003 to 2018, with the 2001 and 2002 models only having the system in the more-expensive trims.

#5 Volkswagen Passat

2021 and 2022 Volkswagen Passat sedans have standard adaptive cruise control, while models from 2016 to 2020 only had the system in the higher trims.

Cruise control is standard across all Volkswagen Passat from 2001 to 2015, and older models before that period do not have the cruise management system.

2022 marks this midsize car’s final model year stateside.

#6 Volkswagen Arteon

This 2019 debutant is a unique large hatchback with sleek styling and sporty handling.

All Volkswagen Arteon models have at least the basic cruise control system, with the higher trims carrying the more-sophisticated adaptive cruise control (ACC) before ACC became standard from 2022 onwards.

Volkswagen SUVs with Adaptive Cruise Control

#7 volkswagen taos.

Since its introduction in 2022, the Volkswagen Taos subcompact SUV has had adaptive cruise control in the upper trims and cruise control in the lower ones.

#8 Volkswagen Tiguan

This model stands out among small SUVs with its three rows of seats.

Volkswagen Tiguans from 2018 onwards have had adaptive cruise control or cruise control, depending on the trim level.

All VW Tiguan models from 2009 to 2017 had standard cruise control.

#9 Volkswagen Atlas Cross Sport

This SUV is a two-row version of the VW Atlas.

Since its 2020 debut, the Volkswagen Atlas Cross Sport has had adaptive cruise control in the upper trims and conventional cruise control in the lower ones.

#10 Volkswagen Atlas

This SUV is a three-row midsize, seating up to seven.

Like the two-row variant, the Volkswagen Atlas with an extra row of seats has cruise control in the base trim and the more sophisticated adaptive cruise control in the costlier ones.

Volkswagen Electric Vehicle with Adaptive Cruise Control

#11 volkswagen id.4.

As the German marque’s pioneering electric SUV, Volkswagen ID.4 models have adaptive cruise control with lane centering across all trim levels.

References:

https://www.vw.com/en/models.html

https://www.vw.com/en/iq-drive.html

Adaptive Cruise Control ⁠ 1

Part of the iq.drive safety-enhancing and intelligent technologies.

Adaptive cruise control (ACC) helps drivers maintain a constant speed and distance from the vehicle ahead using sensors to detect other vehicles . 
The system can reduce speed of the vehicle if there is a slower moving vehicle ahead, bring the vehicle to a standstill, and resume speed regulation as long as the vehicle in front is moving again.

Maintain a safe distance

Assists with unintentional tailgating

Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) feature allows drivers to maintain a constant speed while also keeping a safe distance from the vehicle ahead using sensors. This helps reduce the stress of constantly adjusting speed and distance, making the driving experience more comfortable.

Safety and confidence on the road

Adaptive responses for responsible driving

With the ability to slow down or bring the vehicle to a standstill in response to slower moving vehicles ahead, drivers can feel confident that they are driving safely and responsibly. This feature also ensures that drivers can easily resume speed regulation once the vehicle in front starts moving again, making the driving experience smoother and more enjoyable.

The ins and outs of  adaptive cruise control

How it works

Helps you maintain a preset speed and/or preset distance from the vehicle directly ahead. When dealing with traffic on the highway, it uses sensors to detect vehicles ahead of you, helping adjust your speed, and manages the distance between you and what’s in front of you.⁠

Instructions

• To engage the system, press the ON/OFF button on your steering wheel and then set your speed by accelerating to the desired speed and press the SET button.
• To increase the set speed by the 1 mph, press the + button. If you press and hold the + button, the speed will increase continuously in 5 mph increments.
• To decrease the set speed by the 1 mph, press the - button. If you press and hold the - button, the speed will decrease continuously in 5 mph increments.
• To adjust the following distance from the vehicle in front of you, press the ACC button on your steering wheel. As you press the ACC button, you'll see a change in the number of solid bars in your digital cockpit. The more bars visible, the greater the following distance. You can make the same adjustments using the +/- buttons immediately after pressing the ACC button or in your infotainment screen.
• To cancel, press the brake pedal or quickly press the cruise control button on the steering wheel.
• To resume a previously stored speed, press the RES button on the steering wheel.
• When you accelerate, the ACC function pauses and then resumes as soon as you stop accelerating.
• Note that, in some conditions, select vehicles may come to a complete standstill. For example, if the vehicle ahead of you comes to a stop, your vehicle will also come to a stop. The stop and go feature is included on all model year 2024 vehicles . For previous generation models , see your owner’s manual for vehicle limitations.

Limitations

• You must be driving above a minimum speed to activate the system. For some models the minimum speed is 15 mph; for others, it is 20 mph.
• Only reacts to objects within the sensor’s line of sight; some vehicles such as those depicted below are not detected until they are within the sensor’s line of sight.
• While all MY22 and newer vehicles can detect pedestrians, only some can detect cyclists. See your Owner’s Manual for your vehicle ’s limitations.
• Once activated, system only operates between 0 and 95 mph.
• The following situations can lead to unwanted braking: 
• Damage to or misalignment of the sensor or sensor mounting.
• Sensor blockage, which can be caused by ice/snow buildup, dirt, mud or leaves. 
• Towing heavy trailers or carrying heavy cargo in the rear of the vehicle , which can elevate the front of the vehicle and change sensor angles. 
• Curvature in the road.
• The following situations can disable the system:
• Damage to, misalignment of or blockage of the sensor.
• Towing heavy trailers or carrying heavy cargo in the rear of the vehicle , which can elevate the front of the vehicle and change sensor angles.

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Volkswagen e-Golf (2014-2019) review

The volkswagen e-golf offers all the practicality of volkswagen's five-door hatchback and is almost as good to drive, too.

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• 2 Range, battery & charging
• 3 Running costs
• 4 Electric motor, drive & performance
• 5 Interior & comfort
• 6 Practicality & boot space
• 7 Reliability & safety

3.5 out of 5

• Great to drive
• Super-low company-car tax
• Looks like a mainstream Golf
• Relatively expensive to buy
• Shorter range than key rivals
• Smaller boot than a regular Golf

The Volkswagen e-Golf was a very important car when it launched in 2014, as it was the German car giant’s first all-electric family hatchback and remained on sale for five years. It’s practical, fun to drive and appeals to buyers after the benefits of an electric car combined with the low-key conservative styling of the regular Golf.

Unlike the Volkswagen ID.3 , which was designed from the ground up as a fully electric model, the e-Golf is closely linked to other Mk7 Golfs, albeit with a fully-electric motor under the bonnet and battery pack beneath the boot. It offers a relatively short range of up to 144 miles (more like 130 in real-world driving conditions), which is comparable to rivals such as the MINI Electric and Honda e . But, the Nissan Leaf is capable of a 168-mile range, while long-range versions of the Hyundai Kona Electric and Kia Niro EV can travel much further still.

The Volkswagen e-Golf is fitted with a 134bhp electric motor which drives the front wheels via a single-speed transmission. It’s powered by a 35.8kWh battery, which is considerably smaller than some other EVs, given that it was squeezed into a car originally designed to accommodate a conventional petrol or diesel engine. For some, though, the e-Golf’s similarity to the conventional Golf is part of the appeal, but there are some subtle distinguishing features such as a blanked-off grille, aerodynamic alloy wheels and blue-accented trim.

Charging can be taken care of using a domestic supply, with a full charge from empty taking just over five hours using a wallbox at home. However, most owners will only be topping up a partially used battery overnight, so returning to maximum charge will be much quicker than that. Use one of the ever-growing network of public chargers and you can get back to 80% capacity in just over 30 minutes.

The e-Golf carries around a heavy battery, and that means noticeable extra weight to lug around. This blunts the agility and poise of the standard Golf chassis a fraction, but not enough to take all the fun out of driving it – in fact, the e-Golf remains one of the best pure-electric cars to drive given its direct handling and relaxed ride comfort. The e-Golf also feels quite happy and unstrained at normal motorway speeds.

There’s only one trim level but the equipment levels helped to justify the e-Golf’s price. Standard kit included a Discover Pro navigation system with gesture control and a 9.3-inch infotainment touchscreen. Adaptive cruise control, LED headlamps and Car-Net App-Connect smartphone connectivity are also included.

From the driving seat or any of the passenger seats, the e-Golf experience is remarkably similar to any other model in the line-up. You get the same dashboard layout and interior trim, identical interior space and the freedom to choose many of the same optional extras. Boot space is reduced a little by the underfloor batteries, but still offers a reasonable amount of room.

With typical Volkswagen build quality and a comprehensive safety package built in, the e-Golf is one of the most reassuring and easily accessible ways to get into electric motoring – for those who can afford the purchase price, anyway. It makes a lot of sense for families with a daily school run and for city-based business users, although by its very nature, the electric Golf does have a more conservative feel than its BMW i3 rival. For a more detailed look at the Volkswagen e-Golf, read on for the rest of our in-depth review...

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2018 VW e-Golf | Car Review

We seem to be on a roll at the moment with a large number of hybrids or EVs coming up for review. Is that good, or is it too early days still?

The Prius has been around for what feels like forever, so there’s no evidence for the claims of ‘early adopters’ for those cars.

But EVs? That’s a whole new ball game. Sure, the Leaf has been around for a while now, and there are more and more of them being imported. We’ve had the odd new one pop up here and there; the BMW i3 , Hyundai Ioniq and Renault Zoe for example.

Now with the e-Golf and the Hyundai Kona, people are starting to take notice. The Golf has always been a respected car in New Zealand, so is it an easy transfer to make, from your petrol Golf to an electric one – especially an electric one that claims to have a 220km range?

A week with the e-Golf as my Daily Driver and a couple of longish trips was going to give me the real evidence. Regardless of materials mined to make EV batteries – is it time to sit up and take notice?

According to VW NZ, the e-Golf has a real-world range of 220km – could it replace my Daily Driver?

What’s In The 2018 VW e-Golf Range?

Well this is going to be short. There’s just the one electric Golf model, and it’s simply labelled e-Golf and is priced at $65,990.

That’s not to say it’s not fitted out well. As standard, it does come with an electric park brake with auto-hold, tyre pressure warning system, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, City Emergency Brake, and the Side Assist Plus package (which includes lane change assist and rear cross traffic alert).

16” alloys are standard, as well as LED headlights, LED DRLs, rear fog lamps, auto headlights, auto wipers, electrically folding and heated mirrors, Park Distance Control (front & rear), reversing camera, 9.2” colour touchscreen with 8 speakers, gesture control, DVD player and hard disk. There’s also Apple CarPlay and android Auto as standard, and a 12.3” Active Info instrument display.

A bummer that the e-Golf doesn’t come with heated seats as many other electric vehicles do, that’s a $3,500 option which includes full leather seating.

Keep in mind that for the electric side of things, there’s the electric motor in the front of the car driving the front wheels only. Some people assume all electric cars are all-wheel drive.

First Impressions Of The 2018 VW e-Golf

Look, the Golf is normally a great looking car. Why mess with a good thing, right? Uh, yeah. There’s an elephant in the room we need to talk about: those hideous wheels. I’m not sure what it is with manufacturers and hybrid/electric cars – they seem to go out of their way to make some part of them (or all of them) ugly. They may be designed for good aerodynamics, but those wheels belong in the 1980s.

There’s exceptions to the rule of course, the Tesla is a great looking car, but on the whole there seems to be some agenda to make electric cars look bad/terrible.

Case in point: the Hyundai Kona is a great looking car. The EV version? Hideous wheels.

Now I’ve got that off my chest, the Golf still looks good if you ignore the wheels, especially in the black our test car was finished in. There’s an extra grille bar on the front and e-Golf badges on the front, side and rear but otherwise she’s still a looker.

What’s The Inside Like On A 2018 VW e-Golf?

While I’ve moaned about the wheels, it’s time to give VW some credit. Thank you Volkswagen for putting in a standard-looking gear selector. It’s nothing different than what people expect, and I expect that’s how people want it. They don’t want to go trying to figure out some weird looking stick thing (I’m looking at you, Prius) and the one in the e-Golf is perfect. It might as well be hooked up to a normal gearbox, as it also has nice indents and a real ‘mechanical’ feeling when you change ‘gears’.

The rest of the interior is standard fare for a Golf; build quality is excellent, and the plastics used also feel like quality items.

The central touchscreen is crystal clear – fantastic clarity here, and the menu system is still VW’s standard, and works simply and easily – I can’t see anyone having an issue with driving it.

Up front, there’s just one USB port and an AUX port. You’d think there’d be more USB ports looking at the target market for buyers, but there isn’t.

There’s some blue stitching on the steering wheel and gearshift gaiter, and it looks great.

Rear leg room is good too – the batteries for the e-Golf are under the floor, so no sacrifices have been made for interior room.

This means the boot is normal size too, which is a bonus. There is a false floor and if it were my car, I’d be tempted to just leave this out of the car all the time and have a deeper boot 24/7, but that’s just me.

There’s no spare back there, you get a tyre pump with the car instead.

What Does The 2018 VW e-Golf Drive Like?

Let’s get straight into the electric side of things, ‘cause that’s what you’re here for. You get three drive modes with the e-Golf: Normal, Eco and Eco+.

Really, you could consider Normal as Sport mode in a petrol car – this is the mode that gives you the most performance, but obviously drains your battery more quickly. You can still comfortably (re range) use Normal mode if you are just cruising around the city, and know you are going to be charging up that night. In fact, I would. Normal mode gives you that solid ‘instant torque’ feeling, which is great in around-town traffic. Performance is just fine in Normal mode, and while it’s not fast – 100m/h comes up in 9.6 seconds – it’s more than capable.

As always with electric cars, it’s the 0-50km/h zone where the car shines, as it leaves those petrol monsters in its silent wake.

Eco is a good middle of the road option – you still get reasonable performance and an increase in your range of say 20km when the car is fully charged up.

And then there’s Eco+. The warning on the screen when you select this mode says, “Performance and Comfort severely affected”. That’s because you lose control of the air con – even the display showing the temperature goes off (I thought it was broken to start with). And yes, performance becomes a lot more leisurely, to the point where you are speed limited to 95km/h.

Well, sort of limited. I found I could drive in Normal or Eco mode and cruise at 100km/h, then switch it to Eco+ and put cruise control on, and it would stay at 100km/h. That was until your speed dropped below 100 because of other traffic, then the adaptive cruise control would set itself down to 95km/h.

This all isn’t a bad thing, and if you want to save energy then the e-Golf goes all out to help you. Actually cruising along the motorway silently at 95km/h was just fine for me.  I spent a lot of my time with the car driving it in Eco+, just to see how usable it was.

Here’s the thing with Eco+ or Eco mode – if you need to, you can just floor it at any time to get full power, so there’s always performance available if you need it.

I mentioned the gear selector earlier on, and just how great it was to find a normal looking shifter in the car. With the e-Golf, you can move the shifter left or right (once you are in Drive) to increase/decrease the amount of engine braking that will be applied while driving. VW calls this Brake Recuperation. There’s 5 levels – None, 1,2,3 and then maximum regenerative braking can be applied by moving the shifter down (where L or 1 st would be in a normal car) to ‘B’.

This is great as you can determine how much you want the car to give you extra charge, but I would have thought just on 100% or off would have been just fine. Also, it’s a shame that the car doesn’t remember what setting you had it on before when you restart the car. So if you had it on 3, when you restart the car you need to move the gear lever over three times again to set it back.

Or, you could just move the lever down to Drive, then a quick flick to B mode – that’s what I always did. I don’t understand the reasoning to want less than maximum charge, as it saves your brakes – you barely use them – and you get the maximum charge back into the batteries possible.

So for me, every time I got in the car and started it, I’d move the lever to B. It’d be nice to be able to set this as a default for one of the driver profiles that the e-Golf allows you to pick. The other thing that resets with every start of the car is the drive mode. I’d like to be able to have it always go to Eco mode, for example, but the car always defaults to Normal mode.

You can download the VW smartphone app, Car-Net, which will allow you to do different things like setup your charging times and have the car heated or cooled at certain times of the day, so quite handy, but it doesn’t look like you can alter any drive mode settings.

So with a claimed range of 220km, how far can you really go in the e-Golf? First, let’s talk about that 220km range. That was achieved by two people from the AA who drove the car (in Normal mode) from Auckland to Tokoroa – 220km – without running out of battery. All credit to VW, that’s a great story and a reflection of the car’s capabilities.

But…that is one of the easiest drives in the country. It’s not flat, but it’s not a difficult drive by any stretch of the imagination. There wouldn’t be much changing of the ‘throttle’, and a good chunk of that drive is on the motorway/expressway. I’d be giving it the ‘real world’ test, and when you talk about Wellington’s hills, it’d be as real as it gets.

Day Two with the e-Golf, and a trip to Paekakariki loomed. I’d charged up the car overnight, and we had 174km of range when we left home. We don’t have a fast charge outlet at home, so it was a matter of plugging into a normal 230-volt outlet. Anyway, I drove the car in Eco+ mode all the way, and after our 48km drive our range sat on 169km. The maths isn’t hard on this one – we drove 48km and used 5km of range. Things were looking very good indeed.

The return trip wasn’t as good, and we used about the same amount of range as we did driving, mainly I’m guessing to a bit of a head wind.

Day Three was a trip to the Wairarapa, over that EV killer that is the Remutaka Hill. A solid overnight charge and sticking the car in Eco+ mode, and we had 217km of range leaving the house. We were expecting to do around that much, so – real world test coming up.

We drove 90km to Caterton via Martinborough, and had 80km range left. Wasn’t quite going to get home – we might, but we might not. A quick check of the PlugShare app showed that Paua World in Caterton had a charging station. We cruised in and paid our $3, and plugged in.

A coffee and lunch in Caterton, and an hour and half later we went back to pick up the car. I didn’t realise Paua World didn’t have a Fast Charger (my fault) and we’d only gained 30km extra range – but it’d be enough.  And it was – we got home driving normally (in Eco+ mode, just to be safe) and made it back with 15km to spare. Plenty! I plugged the car back in at home, and away it went.

So – you are going to ask how much does it actually cost to charge up the e-Golf? This depends on your power company, and what you pay. I’m with Genesis and the plan I’m on means I pay $0.21/kilowatt. The e-Golf has a 38.5kW battery pack. Let’s say it’s down to 3.5kW of power left, which is almost empty – so you need to put in 35kW of power overnight to completely charge it up.

At 21cents/kilowatt, that’s $7.35. You decide if that’s cheap enough for you. From dead flat, if you ever got to that, it would cost $8.09 to ‘fill it up’ based on my power rate.

If you were on a power plan that allowed for cheaper charging overnight, then it’s going to cost you even less if you charge the e-Golf (or any electric car/plugin hybrid) at the right time of night.

One thing with plugging the e-Golf in – there’s no light in the ‘fuel filler’ area, so it was a matter of getting my phone out to have some light when plugging the cable in at night. It would have been nice to have some sort of light in there (other than the green LED light that shows it’s charging).

So enough of the electric driving experience – what about everything else? On the down side, the seats are comfortable but do need more side support – it’s easy to slip a bit sideways when pushing on. And again, like some other electric cars, with the batteries down so low, you can really push this car along on the bends. It sits flat, flat, flat. That low centre of gravity is the e-Golf’s friend, and makes it a pleasure to go around corners in, with turn-in being perfect.

Ride is one word: excellent. Any bump, any road surface, it rides so well. Part of this may be down to its weight of over 1,600kg – on the heavy side for a small car. But it’s one absolute highlight of the car.

Still on small niggly things, the Blind Spot Monitoring warning on the mirror glass, and the light on the mirror body that shows the indicator on – they’re too close together. This might be by design, but sometimes an orange light on the mirror would grab my attention and I’d think it was a car as I was changing lanes, but it was only the indicator light warning thing going.

The leather steering wheel is small, and feels great under your hands – definitely one of the better ones. Interesting to see that the volume control is on the left side of the wheel, and track up/down is on the right. I’m used to them being on the same side of the wheel, but soon got used to it.

Due to the quietness of no engine, you do hear much more road noise in the e-Golf, but this could be said of most electric cars. Noise in electric cars can also be added from manufacturers putting low-rolling resistance tires on the car, which are made from a super hard compound.

There’s some wind noise from the A pillar on the motorway, but on the whole it’s as quiet as you’d expect it to be.

Stereo quality is just fine, with some good bass, and separation is above average. There’s gesture control in this car, but as always I simply couldn’t get it to work. That’s more me than the car though, this is something I always struggle with.

What’s The Competition For The 2018 VW e-Golf?

What’s the pros and cons for the 2018 vw e-golf, what do we think of the 2018 vw e-golf.

Well? Could the e-Golf replace my Daily Driver? You know, I really think it could. I believe after a short amount of time, your driving style would change and you’d subconsciously drive differently, and get more range without even trying to.

I said this of the last car review I did, for the BMW X2: it’s difficult to fault the e-Golf. Ignoring the cost, there are a few small things, but these aren’t deal breakers at all.

Somehow I doubt any e-Golf buyer would regret their purchase – it’s a great little car.

2018 VW e-Golf rating:  4.5 Chevrons

2018 vw e-golf – specifications.

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I don’t care for the wheels that much either, but if I highlight the text you spend talking about the wheels in your impressions of the car’s outer look it leaves about a sentence or two.

If you could afford this (at the time) you could afford to change the wheels, right?

Now that these have fallen in price this much, I imagine the market for this car probably can’t really stretch to cover the wheels just for aesthetics. But it really is just the wheels Fred…

Hi Garth Good points you make there. I guess the angle I was coming from is what’s different from ‘normal’ Golf. We’ve had that gen out for a while, so first impressions are moot. So what’s different? The wheels. But I see where you are coming from. Yep you could easily change the rims out but I expect most buyers of the e-Golf aren’t the standard Golf (GTi etc) buyer who would do that? Thanks for the feedback, I did reread that bit and you are right!

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Cruise control

Automatically keeps your car moving at a safe, constant speed..

Our cruise control system 1 works electronically to help regulate your car's speed. It reduces the stress on drivers and offers you more comfort on long journeys by keeping the vehicle at a constant speed. It's particularly effective when you have to stay within speed limits for a long way - when driving through miles of roadworks on the motorway, for example - and cuts the risk of your speed creeping up by accident.

The system works by memorising and maintaining the speed you select. It's very flexible, too. You can increase or reduce speed manually - to a defined value - and you also have the option of returning to the speed most recently memorised.

The cruise control system can be turned off simply by pressing a button or by pressing the brake or clutch pedals. For safety reasons, the cruise control system should not be used in heavy traffic or in difficult road conditions, such as heavy rain or ice.

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Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)

Volkswagen ’s safe distance technology ..

Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) helps to avoid accidents by always keeping your car at a safe distance from the traffic ahead.

Working together with the radar-controlled Front Assist traffic monitoring system, our adaptive cruise control system keeps you at a safe distance from the vehicle in front, making driving much easier - whether on motor way journeys or in slow and moving traffic.

As with cruise control, you set the speed at which you want your car to maintain. This is then further enhanced by being equipped with the safe-distance technology using a radar sensor, which modulates your speed based on traffic conditions. The system detects traffic slowing ahead and automatically reduces your speed to match and maintain an appropriate gap to the car in front. If necessary, the system will bring your car to a complete stop.

It does this with the help of the Front Assist system which primes the brakes if it senses a collision is likely, shortening the stopping distance when the driver hits the brake pedal.

How it works

The safe-distance technology 's radar sensor has a range of up to 200 metres and a beam angle of 12 degrees. The radar sensor and control unit are combined into a single unit which is located at the front of the car.

Using the signals from the radar sensor, the control unit computes the distance to the vehicle ahead and your car's speed relative to it. It also works out its lateral position on multi-lane roads. If there are several vehicles within the sensor's field of coverage at the same time, this information is used to select which of the vehicles the system should track. The radar sensor is not capable of detecting stationary obstructions, such as the end of a tailback or crash barriers, however.

If approaching a slower vehicle ahead or if another vehicle cuts in front of you, the adaptive cruise control slows down the car by initiating corrective controls in the engine management and, if necessary, in the braking system too. If the required rate of deceleration exceeds 30% of the vehicle's maximum stopping power, visual and audible warning signals will prompt the driver to apply the brakes manually.

Adaptive Cruise Control V1.5

In addition to the standard Adaptive Cruise Control, this version has a greater operating range of speeds between 0 -130mph.

Adaptive Cruise Control with Predictive Cruise Control

In addition to the above, this updated version of ACC includes:

Road recognition - using information from front and rear cameras and route information, your vehicle will predictively adjust its speed prior to junctions and bends.

Speed Assist - using both the front camera and route information identifies changes in the posted speed limit and automatically adjusts the vehicles speed.

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Working together with the radar-controlled Front Assist traffic monitoring system, our adaptive cruise control system keeps you a safe distance from the vehicle in front and that makes driving much easier in slow and stop and go traffic. Click to expand...

Below 60kmph the system keeps the distance automatically [...] traffic jam assist brakes automatically even down to a standstill Click to expand...

The optional Traffic Jam Assist system supports you in nerve-racking stop-and-go traffic and can help you avoid typical traffic jam collisions. Click to expand...

ACC supports stop/start; but once the car you are driving comes to a halt, you need to touch the accelerator again to say your ready to move off, then it will tag onto the rear of the car in front.  

Excellent, that's what I hoped for (I expect to have to tap the accelerator or CC buttons - the other cars seem to do that, presumably in case you've turned around or gone fishing in the glove box and aren't paying attention!). I don't suppose you happen to know if the e-Golf comes with the active info display instrument cluster as standard? I was sure I'd seen that it did, but just noticed the website says it's optional? And for some reason, the Golf brochure served up on the website has no mention of the e-Golf! ;(  

ACC on my GTE will happily work in stop/go traffic, and will also brake you to a stop from speed . If the stop is more than a second or two then you need to give it a little prod to restart, but other than that it works fine. I don't think you can set the target speed to be <20mph, but it will go slower if the radar tells it to.  

Actually the dash doesn't look crap without it. The Active Info display is nice, but otherwise the analogue gauges are the most elegant on the market. Meanwhile trust me: you can be confident that the driving experience on the eGolf is the next best thing to a Tesla (I've driven both).  

DanTup said: I see that the e-Golf comes with adaptive cruise control as standard but I'm struggling to understand if it works in stop/go traffic? This page: Adaptive Cruise Control | Volkswagen UK Says: This sounds good... However, there's an optional "Traffic Jam Assist" here: Traffic Jam Assist | Volkswagen UK The video voice over says: And the e-Golf page on the website: Volkswagen e-Golf | New 2017 Range : Volkswagen UK Says: So, I'm confused - does the standard ACC support stop/go, and the traffic jam assist just adds steering, or is the ACC page misleading? Click to expand...

From the ever-unhelpful website, I think that Lane Assist only works at >40mph. Traffic Jam Assist does basically the same thing but works at slower speeds. It's basically "Lane Assist+". Both are steering related, leaving the ACC to deal with the speed.  

VW still doesn't seem to want to promote this car, the information on their website is so sparse. I read a review on the Inchcape Volkswagen website today and it said it has the 7kW charger. I do hope that is true as a 3.3 kW is just too slow for charging in carparks etc. It also says the fast charging is limited to 43kW, not going to be so great for long journeys. We don't do many of those otherwise we wouldn't be buying a Golf I'm finding some of the options rather confusing as well. We are interested in the Dynamic Light Assist as my wife's night vision isn't great. It's there as an option, but you can't order it as just that option, you have to order it with Lane Assist, and then it also wants to add LED headlights, but the eGolf already has LED headlights. Even the dealer I have been speaking to today couldn't work that one out and he is going to find out what is needed. I sopke to Inchcape Colchester today as their website let me book a test drive in an eGolf. They don't have one, but their West London showroom should have one if that's any help. I assume it will be the older model.  

Woodulike said: I read a review on the Inchcape Volkswagen website today and it said it has the 7kW charger. I do hope that is true as a 3.3 kW is just too slow for charging in carparks etc. Click to expand...

I hadn't seen the specs before, but I hope that is as accurate as lots of other things on the VW website! I'll ask today and see if I can find out any more.  

I wouldn't get my hopes up, I couldn't even find out what charging speed is available on my GTE when I was getting info from the dealer. A real shame they didn't have 7kW charging as an option on the GTE (like the 6.6kW option in the Leaf) as I don't have charging at home and use a local public charger (which is a 7kW but charges by the hour so faster charging would save me money as well as time). It seems VW's decemination of info on electric cars to its dealers has a long way to go. I'm hoping things will improve for their big electric roll out in 2020.  

I didn't even get a call back today, but I did get a message apologising for not getting time to call back.. Maybe tomorrow, or maybe its a waste of time asking anyway. 3.3 really is slow though, 7 kW should be the minimum on any car if it is going to be any use for daytime charging. Our nearest rapid is a 20 minute drive away so if we manage to drive over 100 miles and still want to go out again it is going to be very slow going. Not likely to happen very often, but annoying if it does. Every EV seems to have an issue that makes us think this is going to be akward at times!!  

Hi Danny, the new e-Golf charges at a rate of 7kW. Click to expand...

We apologise for the miscommunication, Danny. A standard UK 230-volt/ 2.3 kW supply will recharge the battery in 13 hours. An optional wallbox for home use provides faster charging through its 3.6 kW supply and can recharge a flat battery in eight hours Click to expand...

This will depend on your home charging unit, Danny. However, we're checking for further information with out experts and will let you know. Click to expand...

DanTup said: I feel less informed than when we started. I've asked if they can find out for real and am awaiting a response! Click to expand...

The US version is 7kW if that helps.. "Herndon, VA, February 22, 2017 — Volkswagen of America, Inc., is pleased to announce fuel economy figures for the 2017 e-Golf. Compared to its predecessor, the new e-Golf offers an improved EPA-estimated range and fuel economy, as well as more power. For 2017, Volkswagen is using a new lithium-ion battery with an increased energy capacity of 35.8 kWh from 24.2 kWh. The new battery helps increase the vehicle’s range from an EPA-estimated total range of 83 miles to 125 miles on a single charge. The 7.2 kW on-board charger is now standard on both SE and SEL Premium trims, which enables the battery to be charged in less than six hours at a 240V charging station. When equipped with DC Fast Charging (optional on SE, standard on SEL Premium), the battery can be charged to 80 percent within an hour at a DC fast charging station"  

I believe the US version of the original e-golf and this current new model of e-golf always had the option for 7kW charging. Funny that VW would have to check with their "experts" to find out what charging was available on the UK spec e-golf. It's like asking what type of petrol is recommended and the size of the petrol tank was on the Golf GTI and someone coming back stating that an expert was required to confirm that information. This is basic stuff. If they know the rate of the DC CCS rapid charger, they should know what the AC level 2 charger is rated at. Is it 16A single or dual phase? I'm very happy with my GTE at the moment and my lease takes me nicely up to 2021 where the new batch of EV's from all manufacturers will be out for a little while. I would like to stick with VW, especially as the MEB platform does sound promising but if they come across as confused and ill informed as the new e-golf, they may finding themselves losing a customer to a car company that actually knows the specs of the car it is selling to the UK market.  

AhabTheBad said: Funny that VW would have to check with their "experts" to find out what charging was available on the UK spec e-golf. It's like asking what type of petrol is recommended and the size of the petrol tank was on the Golf GTI and someone coming back stating that an expert was required to confirm that information. Click to expand...

My suspicion (hope?) is that it does 7kW charging, but they're offering chargers that are only 3.6kW? If that's true, none of their tweets to me are incorrect (they said it does 7kW, then said "An optional wallbox for home use provides faster charging through its 3.6 kW supply"). Hopefully we'll find out soon, but to me personally it's not the end of the world.. I think it's silly if they've gone with 3.6kW (especially when AC charging isn't that uncommon in towns, away from the motorway services) but given the range is over 50% greater than my ZOE and the number of times we either use non-rapid chargers away from home or need to charge in a hurry at home (never), it won't make much difference.  

DanTup said: Valid, but given the info isn't in the brochure, might be different between the car charge rate and the wallbox they offer and it's a new model (and technology), I don't it's totally outrageous if the social media person doesn't have immediate access to the answers. I'd much rather they want away to get a good answer than what most companies seem to do on twitter these days, which is just spout complete bullshit (and then get ridiculed for it =)) Click to expand...

We already have a thread about charging: VW e-Golf 2017 - charging  

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Cars with Adaptive Cruise Control: Everything You Need to Know

Cars with adaptive cruise control used to be considered a luxury only featured in state-of-the-art vehicles. Still, with technological advancements, adaptive cruise control is now a common feature found in many different car models.

Cars with adaptive cruise control used to be considered a luxury only featured in state-of-the-art vehicles. Still, with technological advancements, adaptive cruise control is now a common feature found in many different car models. Autobytel says this means ACC is now accessible to everyone, and even if your current vehicle doesn't have ACC, you can always have it installed.

What Does Adaptive Cruise Control Do?

Adaptive cruise control uses advanced sensory technology to determine your car's speed in proximity to other vehicles or objects on or around the roadway. It applies moderate brakes and warning signals when a driver is getting to close to another car. Drivers can set the speed limit on the ACC so that they don't exceed the speed limit, but when the sensory technology detects traffic or other unsafe conditions, it reduces the driver's speed to adapt to them.

The Best Cars With Adaptive Cruise Control

1. 2020 bmw 3 series.

This brand new model offers the best combination of sensory technology . It uses cameras in addition to ultrasonic and radar sensors to pull data about the environment surrounding the vehicle. In addition to its sensory features, it also has a "stop-and-go" brake feature, great for commuters who spend extended amounts of time in stand-still traffic as it alleviates the stress on the driver's legs and feet. What's more, the camera sensor can pick up traffic signs such as speed limit signs and reduce or increase speed to match the recommended rate of speed.

2. 2020 Volvo S60

This new model by Volvo has a "Pilot Assist" feature, which makes driving safe and easy. What this feature does is it helps the driver maintain the proper speed with neighboring vehicles, and it also provides steering assistance along with automatic braking or accelerating for situations such as stop-and-go to free-flowing traffic. Another great aspect of this model is that it doesn't rely on a lead car to determine speed and spacing, so you can use it even when you aren't near another car.

3. 2020 Hyundai Sonata

This new Hyundai model has the same technological systems as other Hyundai models, called "SmartSense advanced driving assistance systems." The 2020 Hyundai Sonata includes SmartSense features such as five cameras, three radar sensors, and 12 ultrasonic sensors to help with things such as advanced cruise control, stop-and-go feature, warning signals, and automatic braking or accelerating.

4. 2020 Nissan Altima

The 2020 Nissan Altima features Nissan's "ProPilot Assist" system, which uses advanced technology to help drivers practice safe driving. It allows drivers with automatic acceleration and braking for speed and distance control, while it also uses automatic steering to help them maintain lane control. These helpful features are made possible by its front-facing cameras, sensors, radar, and electronic control module.

5. 2020 Toyota Corolla Hatchback

This new model provides drivers with an adaptive cruise control system, specifically designed for highway travel. Its cruise control features include cameras within the car and radar sensors on the front grille that can gauge your car's proximity and speed when compared to other vehicles around you. Similarly, these sensors help determine the rate of speed of the vehicle in front of you and automatically decrease your speed if the vehicle in front of you slows down.

The Cheapest Cars With Adaptive Cruise Control

According to U.S.News, here are some examples of the cheapest cars you can buy that still have adaptive cruise control features:

1. 2019 Kia Soul

You can get Kia's "smart cruise control" feature as part of their "Primo Package." This add-on is around $4,500 in addition to the original selling-price. You can save energy with its automatic braking system, and also keep a safe following distance thanks to its forward-collision warning feature. In addition to these safety features, the Kia Soul also provides drivers with a heated steering wheel, and in-depth seat adjustments to meet more complex needs for your body type.

2. 2018 Mazda 3

The 2018 Mazda 3 provides drivers with an adaptive cruise control system that detects rear-cross traffic and blind-spot monitoring, great for making safe lane changes. It also offers a "premium equipment package" for just $1,600 in addition to the original selling price. This package gives your vehicle advanced safety features and other add-ons such as a heated steering wheel and a built-in navigation system.

3. 2018 Hyundai Sonata

The 2018 Hyundai Sonata offers buyers the "technology package" for just $1,000. Included in this package are adaptive cruise control to help drivers maintain a safe following distance and adequate speed. This model also comes with a turbocharged four-cylinder engine.

4. 2018 Toyota Rav4

This 2018 Toyota Rav4 SUV includes an adaptive cruise control system for a fee that increases the original selling price to just above $25,000. When you turn your ACC feature on, it uses its radar sensors to administer collision warnings, automatic braking, and acceleration to make sure that your vehicle moves at a safe pace and maintains an appropriate following distance from other vehicles on the roadway at all times.

The 2018 Toyota Rav4's adaptive cruise control system is categorized as "standard equipment" in Toyota's "Safety Sense P suite of technology," Making it a high-tech safety vehicle for a reasonable price point.

5. 2018 Honda Accord

The 2018 Honda Accord features a state-of-the-art adaptive cruise control system called the "Honda Sensing System." This system offers not only adaptive cruise control but also several other useful safety features, including automatic braking for collision prevention and traffic sign recognition.

These features are powered by camera sensing technology that can read traffic signs such as speed limit markers and adjust the Accord's speed to fit those speed requirements. You can get even more safety features by upgrading to higher-trims.

As adaptive cruise control becomes more readily available, you can find cheap and affordable car models that include much of the same technology as modern luxury cars.

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Hello, I'd like to upgrade my Golf to have Adaptive Cruise Control - has anyone tried this? Is it possible? Rgds, Rob  

it is possible, but youll need to upgrade your steering module, youll aslo need to but a new column cover(or whatever its called) to instal the new lever, and some wiring too. a bit of a PITA but id say in a scale from 1 to 10 in difficulty, id say 3/4. youll also need vagcom cheers  

I have that on my list (actually for both Jetta and Touareg). The problem I have is I have not seen that option available in the steering wheel control module coding and I have one of the most recent (CK). Plus you need a different CC stalk and maybe different cluster (not sure about this one).  

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a three or four out of ten difficulty? have you seen the process necessary to calibrate these systems? plus no golf or jetta comes with this system. nothing's impossible but this is close.  

dave.l.h. said: have you seen the process necessary to calibrate these systems? Click to expand...

dave.l.h. said: plus no golf or jetta comes with this system. Click to expand...

Doing my rain/light sensor retrofit Friday, if I can get an adaptive cruise retrofit I'd be in heaven. As long as all the computers talk to each other I'm down to try it out.  

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

Emperor Norton

Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

• 4 months later...

scubacruiserx2

Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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