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Customer Review: 2017 Trek Remedy 9 RSL
This review was written by our customer, Cory Bryant. He is an avid mountain biker out on the east coast and definitely enjoys shredding his 2017 Trek Remedy 9 RSL around. Let's hear what he has to say! -- Intended Use: Trail/ All-mountain Wheels Size: 27.5” Front/Rear Travel: 160/150 Aluminum Frame PF92 Bottom Bracket Sram X1 Drivetrain/ Guide RS Brakes
As a bike with 160/150mm suspension front and rear, the first question is always: “But can it climb?” The Remedy answers with an emphatic, YES! With their 2017 models, Trek has finally got Rockshox on board with the reAKTIV system they’ve been employing on Fox suspensions on previous models. The new metric Deluxe RT3 shock makes the most of Treks technology to create a rear suspension that is virtually bob-free , even when stand up pedal-mashing rears its ugly head, and with the Dual Position Air Lyrik up front, the front never wandered when climbing whether in long or short travel mode. I can honestly say I have never pedaled a bike with this kind of efficiency and small bump compliance. 30% sag in the rear seems to be the sweet spot for me, and I am able to crush long fire road climbs, and short, steep, rooty ascents with ease. The Bontrager Line Comp wheels provide plenty of stiffness to give you the confidence on climbs, and the spec’d Bontrager SE4 tires do a great job providing the grip to get up even the most demanding hills.
WOW. That’s the best way I can think of to describe the Remedy’s descending prowess. It absolutely RIPS! For 2017, Trek re-engineered the downtubes on their trail models to be a straight tube, and this change has given the Remedy an insane amount of stiffness. To facilitate this change, Trek has also introduced their new Knock Block system. Simply put, Knock Block introduces a keyed headset and stem that limits the degree of rotation on the fork. This was necessary to ensure the 160mm RockShox Lyrik fork up front doesn’t damage the downtube. When I first walked around the bike, this looked like it could be an issue when navigating tight switchbacks out on the trail, but after getting out on the bike it is not noticeable at all. The stiffness however IS, and it allows the Remedy to pop and play off of anything you point it at. Response on the Lyrik and the Deluxe RT3 is amazing, and with 25/30% sag front and rear, it is the perfect mix of playfulness, and confidence on anything I could throw at it. Boost spacing is employed both front and rear, and with an internal diameter of 28mm on the Bontrager Line Comp wheels, the 2.4” SE4 tires provides loads of grip to completely rail berms and flat turns alike, and still provide a great braking platform. Speaking of brakes, the SRAM Guide RS brakes provide a ton of stopping power, while also giving great modulation. The wide 780mm Bontrager bars and 35mm Bontrager stem are super comfortable, and create a nice cockpit for long or short days in the saddle. Speaking of the saddle, the included 150mm Rockshox Reverb seatpost has been flawless to date, although certain models may come equipped with the Bontrager Dropline post with 125mm of travel.
The Remedy comes with SRAM’s X1 1x11 drivetrain, and despite not being the top of the line Eagle 1x12 setup, the 10-42 range proves to be a fantastic and worthy setup for the bike . I am never left wanting more range than what’s available, even when the eventual lung busting techy climbs show up to the party. Shifter engagement and feel get top marks from me, and with a 32T chainring up front, it’s happy sailing all day long. There is no mounting point for a front derailleur, so for those still interested in a 2x setup, you may need to expand your horizons when hopping on the Remedy.
Odds and Ends / Conclusion
With the 2017 Remedy, Trek is still using the Mino Link that has been around for a number of years to allow the rider to adjust the bottom bracket height and head angle. In the “High” setting this creates a head angle of 65.6 degrees, and in the “Low” setting that changes to 65 degrees. Trek also employs their Control Freak cable management system, with makes internal routing a quiet, simple affair. The Remedy also has the tried and true (and sometimes noisy) PF92 pressed bottom bracket, but I have not experienced any issues thus far with it. Two down tube protectors finish off the frame accents. The Remedy has been an absolute blast to ride, and compares favorably to anything out on the market currently . Long, low, and slack only goes so far in describing the bike, especially when it completely tears uphill and almost goes hunting for the next technical ascent. I looked for months for a bike that could do it all, and after throwing a leg over the Remedy I just knew it was the one for me. I firmly believe that the 2017 Remedy 9 RSL, should be included with the Yeti SB6, Santa Cruz Bronson, and Specialized Enduro, as one of the best all-around, do-everything bikes on the market!
January 23, 2017
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Trek Remedy 9 Race Shop Limited review
Could this be the Remedy for all but the most poisonous of trails?
Andy Lloyd / Immediate Media
Good angles and proportions with usable geometry adjustment; very supple and active rear suspension tracks the terrain well; solid, very cohesive spec; great build quality with some nice, well-considered details
Pre-Brexit price hike adds another £200 to the original retail price; Dual Position Air fork needs more air pressure to keep it properly supported when pushing hard
The Remedy has long been a staple in Trek’s trail bike line up and has always proven itself out on the hillside. For 2017, Trek has given the Remedy a serious overhaul, limiting it to 650b wheels and giving it its most aggressive geometry to date in a bid to properly define its intentions.
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Turn the bars and instantly something feels different. That’s because Trek has used a steering lock limiter dubbed the Knock Block. This neat little system consists of a unique stem, spacer, headset top cap and a stop insert in the frame, all of which work together to prevent your fork crown or controls from whacking your down tube should you take a tumble. There’s also some frame protection on the underside of the down tube just in case. But why go to all of this trouble? By using a straight down tube, Trek claims it's able to produce a much stiffer frame and with an improved strength-to-weight ratio.
More obvious highlights include Trek’s well-established ABP concentric drop out pivot and Full Floater suspension design, which delivers 150mm of rear wheel travel, all of which is controlled by the RockShox Deluxe RT3 RE:aktiv rear shock. At the top of the seat stays sits the Mino Links, which let you adjust the bike's geometry. Flipping them will result in an alteration of 0.5 degrees at the head and seat angle and around 10mm in height at the bottom bracket. Even in the high position though, a head angle of 65.6 degrees and bottom bracket height of 344mm isn’t going to hold you back on the descents.
Trek Remedy 9 Race Shop Limited kit
If you’d wondered what the ‘Race Shop Limited’ actually refers to, it’s Trek’s way of distinguishing those bikes with a little more grrrrr from others. In our case it means that there’s a 160 rather than 150mm fork bolted up front in a bid to handle the beating that bit better.
The high volume tyres and broad Line Comp rims do help to take the edge off of things though by sucking up a lot of the smaller trail chatter
To give the Remedy a touch more of that ‘do it all’ attitude, Trek has chosen to use the Dual Position Air Lyrik rather than the fixed travel Solo Air fork. This allows you to toggle the fork down to just 130mm of travel to help make those nasty long climbs that bit more bearable.Both tyres and wheels come from Trek’s in-house brand Bontrager. The broad Line Comp 30 rims help to give the 2.4in SE4 Team Issue tyres plenty of volume and a nice shape and throughout testing I was constantly surprised by how well the combo held up, even after a proper battering on Italian rock.
Trek Remedy 9 Race Shop Limited ride
It’s the Remedy’s incredibly active, supple suspension that you’ll first notice on the trail. Though it’ll bob a bit when you’re slogging up a climb, the RockShox Deluxe RT3 Re:aktiv rear shock’s low speed compression lever is easy enough to reach and firms things up nicely. It’s when you’re heading back down that the lively nature of the Remedy really comes into its own though.
Trek has done a good job of using the 150mm of travel very effectively, producing a rear end that keeps the rear tyre planted, producing impressive levels of traction on properly bogged out or wet surfaces. That’s not to say things feel mushy though, as the suspension still feels well-supported enough when you do start to really push things.
Tuck the Remedy into some seriously awkward, nadgery sections of trail and its sorted chassis, relaxed angles and active suspension help to deliver accurate line choice and high levels of composure.
It was at higher speeds where the Remedy’s suspension balance didn’t feel quite as good as it could have. While it’s a bonus that you can now adjust the progressivity of the Dual Position Air Lyrik fork by adding Bottomless Tokens, just like you can on the Solo Air version, I found that I still needed to increase the air pressure in the fork in order to keep it propped up in the really rough stuff.
This then had a noticeable effect on how supple and forgiving the fork felt through its beginning and mid-stroke, ultimately throwing the overall suspension balance out when you're really throwing the bike into fast, high load corner compressions.
The high volume tyres and broad Line Comp rims do help to take the edge off of things though by sucking up a lot of the smaller trail chatter, but I can’t help thinking that the Solo Air Lyrik might have been a better fit and would have created an even more balanced ride.
OK, I'm being pretty picky here, but seeing as the Remedy has just had a pre-Brexit price hike and gone up an extra £200, it only seems fair. Still, there’s no getting away from what a capable, well-proportioned machine this is with some great kit to boot. It’ll need some fine tune fork fettling to properly balance it out when really being pushed hard at speed though.
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Trek Remedy 9.9 Review
Things have gotten a little quieter around the Trek Remedy in recent years because the 29er model, the Slash, has been attracting the lion’s share of the attention. Now the Remedy has made an impressive comeback with a revised version – and for many riders, it’s the better choice than the Slash.
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At first glance, the Remedy looks very similar to its predecessor, but Trek has tweaked quite a few details and reworked the bike extensively. The new Remedy no longer features a Full Floater rear linkage. Instead – like the Slash – relying on a fixed lower shock mount. The seat tube angle has also become 1° steeper and the seat tube has been shortened to allow shorter riders to use longer dropper seat posts. The travel has remained the same with 160 mm in the front and 150 mm at the rear, whereas the tire width has increased to 2.6″. As is usua l quite a few of the components are from Trek’s in-house brand Bontrager. Fortunately, however, the new 150 mm the dropper seatpost now functions much more smoothly. The package is completed with a FOX 36 Factory GRIP2 fork and a RockShox Monarch shock featuring Trek’s patented Thru-Shaft technology. Shifting is taken care of by a SRAM X01 Eagle drivetrain and powerful Shimano XT four-piston brakes help keep everything under control.
You can’t go wrong with this bike – the Remedy convinces in every aspect!
The Trek Remedy 9.9 in detail
Fork FOX 36 Factory GRIP2 160 mm Schock RockShox Deluxe RT3 Thru Shaft 150 mm Brakes Shimano Deore XT 4-Kolben 200/180 mm Drivetrain SRAM XO1 Eagle Seatpost Bontrager Line Pro 150 mm Stem Bontrager Line Pro Handlebar Bontrager Line Pro OCLV Carbon 780 mm Wheelset Bontrager Line Carbon 30 Tires Bontrager SE4 Team Issue Weight 13.18 kg Price € 6,999
Geometry of the Trek Remedy
The Trek Remedy 9.9 on the trail
Thanks to the reworked geometry, the riding position on the Remedy is very centred and comfortable. The rear suspension works sensitively and, together with the 2.6″ wide tires, provides enough comfort without robbing you of too much energy. Out of the gate, the Remedy is very lively and accelerates quickly. Up steep climbs, the front wheel reliably keeps on tracking the ground with little physical effort required from the rider – top! On narrow, technical climbs the bike is very easy to control and behaves predictably. We didn’t use the additional help of the climb switch on the shock and so we could hit the trail back down without much adjustment. Descending, the Remedy shines with an enormously balanced ride. The suspension is one of the most sensitive in the test field, yet it doesn’t isolate the rider from the ground too much. It offers plenty of feedback for a very active riding style. Every little root or rock that vaguely resembles a lip is an opportunity for you to pop of off. Despite their width, the Bontrager tires feel precise and offer good grip and puncture protection. Cornering, the Remedy doesn’t reveal any weaknesses, feeling very balanced. Direction changes are snappy and require little input from the rider. When the terrain becomes steeper, the Remedy feels planted, which is due, in part, to the rear remaining fully active when braking. However, at higher speeds the Trek is not quite as composed as the fastest bikes in the test field.
The Trek Remedy is the perfect bike when having fun is more important to you than going crazy fast. Its super sensitive suspension and balanced handling make it one of the best bikes in the test field. From flow-trails to bike parks to alpine trails, the Remedy can do it all – an excellent trail bike!
- outstanding rear linkage
- powerful climber
- simply cuts a fine figure everywhere
- short head tube requires many spacers
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All bikes in test: Canyon Spectral CF 9.0 LTD | Evil Offering X01 | Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29 | Ibis Ripmo | Pivot Mach 5.5 Pro XT | Propain Hugene Highend | Rocky Mountain Thunderbolt BC Edition | Santa Cruz Bronson CC X01+ | Scott Genius 900 Ultimate | Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper 29 | Transition Sentinel X01 | Trek Remedy 9.9 | YT Jeffsy 29 CF Pro Race
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Details of the 2017 Trek Remedy
- Benjamin Haworth
- June 30, 2016
More travel, more slackness, more length, more lowness - more enduro!
Trek have simplified their MTB range for 2017. The Remedy is now a full-on Enduro bike. The Fuel EX is their Trail bike. The Top Fuel is their XC bike. Got it? Okay then.
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Let’s talk about the Remedy as that’s the model that’s arguably had the most tweaks done to it.
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Need to know
- 10mm more travel. It’s now a 150mm travel bike with 27.5 wheels
- A degree slacker. It can be run at 66.5 or 66 degree head angle
- Longer. Reach has increased by around 11mm (depending on the frame size)
- Lower. 5mm lower than the previous Remedy
- Stiffer. Principally due to the use of a straight down tube
- Weights from 27.8lb (12.6kg) to 32.3lb (14.65kg)
A bit more detail
The move to a straight down tube has stiffened things up but straight down tubes normally mean that fork crowns whack into them in crashes etc. This problem has been solved by Trek introducing something called the ‘Knock Block’.
The Knock Block is essentially a keyed stem that works in conjunction with a tabbed headset cup that limits how far the fork can rotate in the headtube. It’s a bump stop. A steering limiter.
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The Remedy will come supplied with a Knock Block stem from Bontrager but it will be possible to run normal non-Knock Block stems if you prefer by using a special stem spacer device.
The internal cable routing is handled by Treks’ ‘Control Freak’ cable management entry/exit ports. These are adaptable ports in the frame that keep cables in place and prevent cable-creep and unwanted noise.
Other stuff? It’s Boost axled front and rear. It still uses Treks’ full floater ABP suspension design. There are women specific models. It uses Rockshox RE:Aktiv metric-sized shocks.
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The usual Mino Link flip-chip in the rocker link is there offering geometry adjustment. In Steep mode the head angle is 66.5 degrees and the BB height is 343mm. In Slack mode the head angle is 66 degrees and the BB height is 336mm.
As well as the Remedy getting slacker, longer and lower there will also be another “More Enduro” model available called the Remedy Race Shop Limited.
The Race Shop Limited will sport a 160mm fork up front and (in Slack setting) will have head angle of 65.5 degrees and a BB height of 339mm.
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That’s right. The Remedy 29 is no more.
But stay tuned to mbr.co.uk as we’ll have something else new from Trek to announce very shortly…
2017 Trek Remedy 9 RSL
The Remedy feels like quite a bit more bike than the Stumpy. It’s slacker and longer, and the suspension feels a bit more bottomless, which means that the Remedy is much more of a contender on rowdy descents. Even though the Remedy has the same travel as the Stumpjumper, I’d say the Remedy is a bit closer to the Specialized Enduro in terms of capabilities (and intended use). I should, however, note that the “regular” Remedy that has a shorter-travel fork might be a bit closer to the Stumpjumper.
I haven’t ridden the latest iteration of the 650b Enduro, so this comparison involves a bit of speculation. The Enduro has considerably more travel (170 mm front and rear), but it has similar angles and sizing as the Remedy. I’d say the Remedy is probably a slightly more well-rounded bike (meaning it climbs better), but the Enduro probably edges it out on the roughest descents.
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The Bronson pedals better than the Remedy and is a better climber except on truly technical climbs where the Remedy really excels. But while the Bronson is by no means a bad descender, the Remedy pulls away when things get legitimately rough. The Bronson is an extremely competent and well-rounded trail bike, whereas the Remedy is more of a slightly-scaled-down enduro bike.
The comparison to the Troy is pretty similar to that of the Bronson. The Troy climbs better (again, except on really technical climbs), but the Remedy descends better. The Troy doesn’t have the ability to smash and plow through rough terrain like the Remedy, but the Troy is a bit better at pumping and carving through tighter corners.
The Spartan pedals a smidge better than the Remedy, but it also has more travel, so climbing efficiency is roughly a wash. As is the recurring theme throughout these comparisons, though, the Remedy does better on techy climbs. On the way down, despite the Spartan’s extra travel, I’d actually give the Remedy a slight nod in especially rough terrain. The Spartan is a bit poppier and easier to jump, though, and the frame feels a little stiffer. Ultimately, the two bikes have a lot of similarities. (And just to clarify, I’m comparing this to the 2015-2017 Spartan.)
This is an interesting one, and I’d say the Patrol is probably the closest to the Remedy of any bike I’ve ridden. The Patrol is a touch slacker and has a smidge more travel, but both of those differences are somewhat negligible. The Patrol is a more efficient climber, and on the way up would only lose out to the Remedy on truly technical sections. On the way back down, the Patrol is more poppy and playful. While the Remedy can pop and it can play, it falls a bit more on the “plow” end of the spectrum. So for truly rough, technical trails, I’d take the Remedy. And for flowy, bermy, jump trails, I’d give a very slight nod to the Patrol, but both of these bikes are fun.
Durability and Maintenance
So far, so good. I haven’t done anything to the Remedy other than regular maintenance (lube the chain, air up the tires, etc.). I’ve put a couple of significant dents in the rear rim, but it’s still holding air just fine while set up tubeless. I do, however, think the wheels might need a round of spoke tension pretty soon. But other than that, no news is good news.
The Trek Remedy 9 RSL packs a lot of punch for the amount of travel it has, which means it can hang with longer-travel rigs without breaking a sweat. But having a bit less travel also means it’s less of a chore on climbs, and rider input is less likely to get swallowed up by the suspension.
The longer-travel fork on the RSL version of the Remedy plays no small part in the bike’s descending prowess. And minor adjustments on the RE:aktiv rear shock can make a huge difference in how the bike rides, and what type of rider it works best for.
All in all, I’m entirely impressed by the Remedy. It’s a bike that can mingle with a posse of trail bikes on one ride, then hang with the endurbros on the next. While descending is clearly its forte, I wouldn’t (and haven’t) shied away from pedaling it up long and miserable climbs. Because what goes up must come back down, and if pedaling to the top of a steep, rocky, rooty chunderfest is the kind of thing you’re into, the Remedy should be on your short list.
4 comments on “2017 Trek Remedy 9 RSL”
Great, detailed (yikes!) review on a great bike, Noah. I’ve got the predecessor in 29 and love it. Kinda hoping Trek adds that model next year.
I’ve also got a 2016 Fuel EX that I use for endurance racing (disclosure — Trek helps me out in this regard). I’ve been pounding this bike for nearly two full seasons (including a few laps up, over and around Tally Mountain in your back yard). A few observations on both bikes FWIW:
1. Love the water bottle capability. Both of mine (21 or 21.5) will hold a one-liter Zefal Magnum bottle. Heaven!
2. I’ve never had FS bikes with longer lasting, quieter pivots. On new bikes, I pop out the seals from each bearing, and top them off with Dumonde Tech liquid grease. Never had a peep from either bike, going on two seasons for the Fuel EX and three seasons for the Remedy.
3. The Reaktiv rear shocks are everything they are cracked up to be for trail riding. Like a Brain that works right. For actual racing, I use a shock with firmer lockout valving for the inevitable gravel road climbing sections in just about every endurance race.
4. As an old school guy, I wondered about the integrated lower headset bearings. Turns out to be a non-issue, and the Remedy has seen a LOT of rugged, rocky riding.
Amazing review. Extremely detailed and well thought through.
Noah — thank you for the detailed review. I have been looking at buying the Fuel EX 9.8 and was wondering how much I could infer from your review of the Remedy in considering the Fuel EX? In general the review seems very favorable of the Remedy and trying to ascertain if you were to review the current Fuel EX if you would reach similar conclusions. I know it’s a difficult question to answer but hoping for some guidance. I’m coming off of a 10-year old 26″ Santa Cruz Superlight and would like to upgrade. I’m a little cautious of going all the way up to a 29er vs. a 27.5, but I like the components on the Fuel EX 9.8 and some of the common characteristics of the Remedy in your review hit home with me. I live in Marin County and truth be told do most of my riding on fire roads, although I plan to increase riding of single tracks. A local bike shop in Fairfax is really pushing the Norco Optic 9.2 or 7.2, but I haven’t seen any recent reviews of Norco to assess.
Love your reviews and keep up the great work. I hope Jonathan is healing well!
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The price of this bike has only gone up by £200 in five years, yet it’s a vastly superior ride. Great small bump sensitivity with the RE:aktiv damper Thru Shaft shock.
Unproven reliability of the Thru Shaft damper design.
Trek went deep for 2017 and launched all new models of their Fuel EX, Remedy, and Slash platforms. At their launch event last year in Squamish we were introduced to and rode the first two, but only got a sneak peek of the Slash as its announcement followed about a month later. Go here for a full run down on spec, geo, pricing, and my early ride impressions of the Fuel EX and Remedy, and you can read Perry's Slash review here. The reason I'm starting this Remedy review with all of that info is because Trek didn't just release new versions of those bikes, they also changed the way the lineup looked:
Apr 2017 · Rob Weaver
It’s engaging, lively ride makes even the dullest trails fun to ride. Trek has done a sterling job with just about every element of this bike though I'd have preferred the Solo Air rather than Dual Position Lyrik up front. Buy if you’re looking for a great all rounder that will put a smile on your face no matter what trail you’re riding
Good angles and proportions with usable geometry adjustment
Very supple and active rear suspension tracks the terrain well
Solid, very cohesive spec
Great build quality with some nice, well-considered details
Pre-Brexit price hike adds another £200 to the original retail price
Dual Position Air fork needs more air pressure to keep it properly supported when pushing hard
I must admit I wasn’t super excited to hear there was a Trek Remedy waiting for me to test ride during Crankworx, as the plan was to spend the day in the Whistler Bike Park. If we were hitting the trails I would have been thrilled, but before I actually saw the new bike I …
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2017 Trek Remedy 9 Race Shop Limited Bike (discontinued)
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